Republicans are like Ancient Rome. Democrats, like ancient Greece. When I say “Rome” I mean the Republic that from 840BC to 40BC or so, yearly, spread its hegemony further through Italy and the Farther World. I do not mean “The Empire”, that came after, I mean “The Republic”, that consolidated areas into a representative federal democracy, that made allowance for tribal input; as Rome expanded into counties ruled by various Tribes.
How are Democratic culture is embodied in Grecian Culture, who would think? What I mean is what is the science connecting the cultural phenonoma of America’s political parties, with qualities renditions of history tell about Greece and Rome. How does this cultural anthropological song go? The Roman Tradition became conservative Republicanism, and the athens legacy somehow coagulated with democracy, democrats everywhere, certainly in Amerrica. It’s a cultural association, phenonoma, immaterial, yet true. that What is the cultural origination of Republican Psychology in Roman views and attitudes? And yet it is true. (Like Prometheus giving fire to humans), a Greek Image, awkwardly told as Prometheus’s gizzards then being ripped out by a vulture each afternoon, as punishment from the Gods, for illuminating Humans. Yet it is quite the opposite in reality, one gives wisdom to the humans often, and it rips the heart out daily that that knowledge isn’t used, or wisdom, applied. Thus the Greeks, as do the Democrats, whatever their ideal and purpose, demonstrate, outstandingly, bad form. When I say ancient Greeks, I mean most, Athenians. On the other hand, perhaps wisdom is not applied for fear wise people will be punished for it. Yet here we have two more democratic party precepts; 1) The threat of violence upon the good, ressurected in later age by the catholic cross; this explains the effete liberalism of democratic congress; as a product of fear and intimidation; even the psychologyof the image of losing to Repubican officials in a physical fight. 2) The chaotic and wide-ranging, to put it mildly, free-association exploration through these words, evinces the democratic muddled foraging at night style of the democratic party up against the literal guns of the republicans and prone to panic, and deserting; You see the deserter in Gore’s not contesting 2000; In their lack of pride, of Carter and Mondale; in their stodgy clinging to an American Dream, they ignore the promotion of the morally ambiguos part to The American Dream, that the people want; They ignore what the people want, and why shouldn’t they? There are no tribes or collecctions of The People big enough to even stand up to them exxcept maybe the states. Whereas the Roman analysis is a little more stanzed, you know, hymnal-like, coupled with morality, and recognition of the very moral ambiguity that escapes the greeks reverence of fine art, for example. Art to the Roman, was to please the god, if not the god themselves; The Gods support was necessary for there to be good times, It’s that simple; Whereas Greek art was valuable, and reflective of wealth, and a crude idolization of The Human Skill.
Look at it this way; The Greeks were the height of liberalism. Rightfully revered for memorializing the process of peaceful assembly making decisions among its citizens, and rightfully regarded for not being nearly as imperialistic as Rome, and being distinctively and often divided into distinct small regions of Hegemony; According to Plato, Athenian Greek Culture, promoted, and never protested, Pederasty. Most of the people at Plato’s parties, where Socratic Dialogues were recorded or reconstructed, had a young male lover. That is why, even as Homosexuality was more normal in Athens and Ancient Greece, there was never a clamoring for Marriage, because often it was done, with those much younger, and claimed as a good influence, and positive experience, with people already teen-agers.
This utter lucidicriousness, a society such, yet liberalism never stands up to bad morals so well. The democrats can’t take a stand against prostitution, think sex is easy, marriage unambiguous, they don’t understand the fundamental real issues, or know what is right. Now this is due to being in History’s eye. When there is pressure to accept something significant in cultural history, war, homosexuality with much younger males, you are reduced to what history wants to make you.
There is a basic, Republican, and Roman, and I hope American, belief, that it’s not really about laws, it’s about the virtue of the people who fulfill them, Machiavelli said, oppressed people will be much more corrupted, than those blessed by liberty, leaving us to distinguish whether our blemish of corruption, lingers on in correspondence to the corruption of what happened to the Indians. It would seem our corruption lingers on today, from a criminal culture to American politics in the 1800’s, as America became an empire, by taking the whole continent, and such corresponded corruption of officials back East, which has descended to this present age. Thus we are not virtuous enough. The rule is judges must report judges they are suspicious of. That rule was made for a virtuoso people, not a culture whereby all the judges or most of the judges, have been corrupted. And how, is it god, or are there behind the scenes criminals. The Greek is associated with the criminal, the democrat, the criminal, the republican the military industrial complex, the Greeks had elements, of crime, Maine, is the mainland, exempt to reason.
Yet what also warps the Athenians and democrats views, is marriage. The Romans and Republicans are conservative upper class movements, effectively controlling the country through a detached government that largely operates through rich people, or with. They benefit from this country, they may have prestige, and of course they are for this system. The Athenians and Democrats must change this system, to an ideal, consistent with tribal understandings, and a long practiced natural form, of communities putting their heads together, talking about what they want with their time and life, and how to achieve it. This tribal common sense is purposely lost in history, yet it is the way and change to the current system. Yet the democrats and in Athens, did not register this, per se, and embodied a middle class movement, consistent with communist movements, of galvanizing the people through popular deceptive leaders, that never really represent labor, and the ease of working together, tribal understandings, Godly manifestations, but rather, a change in management from the upper to middle class now, the way upper class replaces monarchs, with senates. The middle class can’t be said to produce much, and is much grounded in marriage. Marriage is one of the prime forces that has warped democratic perception of change through local people thinking together, assembling, as a natural inclination and right.
Women, suffering, strong, are like the roman conservative, Greeks are like crazy guys. But the personality one gets of Greeks and Romans, are the exact personalities that are conveyed in toto by Republicans and Democrats. The wax of the mind has an impression struck in it, a brand if you will, by the same branded sign superimposed upon history through Greece and Rome. I guess The Creator reuses some of his resources and materials to create both classical history, and contemporary political parties. How this possible Classical History is came first, and then out of history came this branding iron upon the modern psyche of political parties? But is it true, current events are ruled by history. Decades and centuries go by without any wiggling out of history. The ROMans made friends eventually with the galls who attacked them, upon long conquering them. The Republican Party, secretly, decadently intellectually perhaps, likes the Tea Party. Democrats, and Greeks, don’t have that special simplicity. Athens and Sparta, by Sea and by Land, uniting all against the Persian Attack, went on to fight each other, despite their valiant and consistent triumphs over Persia, whose acclaim may have insured their golden era through the spotlight of that underdog victory.
It may be said our judiciary, is chaotic, seeking leadership, wrong, like the democrats and Greece, hence Plato’s searching for “form”, is merely a search for “grace”.
The thing is while Rome represented a government imposed by history dominated by an upper class, that expanded through warfare every year, Athens represented a government guided by movements of the people. Yet while the upper class led to imperialism as an end of government, quite aways off from the good a good upper class might do; the movements of the people in Athens, were corrupted movements as well. There was a corruption of the people, and a corruption of the wealthy governing. Yet these political hegemonies were imposed upon a background of tribal affiliation and practice, native identity prevailed, there were other organizations with overlapping and independent and allowed realms; today they are imposed on individuals, partly through a constitution binding people, not states. The history of the movement of the people, in The Republic, is very precise; the army went on strike until fundamental change was made. The people left the city of Rome to protest the arrogant policy of the ruling class. Whereas, in Athens, the crowd is often whipped up to an irrational frenzy.
The problem is an honest reckoning, as the pagans and tribes knew, literally had sacrifices to the phenomena and worries, of what later years characterized as a “Satanic” Universe, an unhappy, and sentient universe, operating out of a chaos, jealous of the good earth and its inhabitants, particularly as earth’s inhabitants are marked by life spans and reproduction, where, Universe, by greater eternity and oneness, or undivided life-force.
The basic stock of the people, and democrats know this rings home, is agriculture, and love, gender relations, sex understood as grounded in truth, not lies. I don’t mean to be pessimistic the party can go there, surely, it can and will and has; It’s a close thing to a tribal structure itself, the party, yet co-opted and corrupted; with not true veneration of values. A high quality of life is not a far-fetched value; there are just deeper values requiring expression. Livy’s Rome, while perhaps sporting overall a lower quality of life than the Greeks, is very declarative that agriculture was to some degree a community concern, agriculture, was independent, autonomous, to a degree, and outside the walls of Rome, not to be trampled by soldiers, upon which sustenance depended. Other historians cite the tribal pasture lands. And food was known as the highest commodity. Conquered hegemonies paid in grain. A simple diet, to feed a simple imperialistic people. But there isn’t much reference to farming in Herodotus, say; and Socrates hangs around in a marketplace, trying to show the not truth, around a commercial hub, almost hypocritical, to seek truth, or claim to, where money is passed for food, if you understand, by the kingdom of god, money is an artificial construct. Moreover the Greek diet seems olives and feta cheese, and seafood; arid and rocky, the farm regions are in the center of Greece, around Trial, whereby in the famous climes to the south of Sparta, Athens, Corinth and Thebes, the land is rocky, with steep mountains, requiring step farming, though once cut in, well, you still see them used 3000 years later, suffice, agriculture is rough in southern Greece, rocky and dry, steep, and I can see them walking around eating olives off the trees all day. In that large island conquered by Athens n 480bc, there are orange trees with oranges on them lining many streets. Whereas the agriculture and weather seems nicer for farming in Italy. Athens forced the island to grow lots of pistachios, because Athens was jealous of Aegina’s commerce and economy; which, is a bit prissy and not respectful of economic nature.
The sentient Universe, longer here than earth, primordial as where earth grew up, making claims as to The Life Force-Intelligence, captured within earth, as all around earth, is most jealous, as seeing the key as reproductive ability, the mark of bountiful space; thus the institution of marriage, a false institution disguised to encourage reproduction, ensuring two parents as it can; yet these are no ideals of earth, but consistent upon a perversion of special nature a less perfect universe desires as sacrifice, and sacrifice so, we strictly do, even the universe operates for us.
Thus a more tenable government today would have to deal with sacrifice, amazing as relevant the universe is in Truth, and as sacrifice is thus hard, (for instance, common criminals could be sacrificed, as the shortage of sacrificial people is not hard to imagine)—and therefore, this detached, removed, centralized focus of government and media, as a conduit for sacrificial decisions, is more appropriate than tribal pain-angst. This understanding sees the Kingdom of God, as facilitating sacrifice. It sees Christianity as parcel to a removal of talk of common sacrifice, and leading us as random victims to the reasoning of higher power, vulnerable too; for lack of dealing with the relevance of a miserable universe, whose palpability incumbent on our efforts to sense through and beyond our five material senses.
Thus as marriage, cloaked in sexual ideal or consistent opportunity, is not what it is known for, as the universe nugatory wishes sex and reproductive amplifications; so society is such; and marriage so corrupting upon the democrat and middle class, that pressure, as to keep the democrats and Athenians from focusing on working together, dealing with all, and changing the way republicans benefit, changing the form of society as separating, to one unifying, standing up to Republicans that way, logically, is beyond the people’s party, as long as the confusion of marriage upon progressive politics.
The thing is, our constitution, by removing power from the people and placing it far away in Washington, creates a situation where criminals thrive, for that rarefied air needs the common sense of the people to regulate it, as that rarefied air is easily corrupted being so far from the wisdom and common sense and incorruptibility of the people. And yet people today, officials, are extorted and bribed and used to engineer the crime our system may have been made for. And people who know this sort of thing, threatened and intimidated, from coming forward, tens, hundreds of them, and who knows what oppressions are able to hide behind the legal system and be imposed on the people through a combination of criminals and local and such officials? How can this be? Surely those in the know would rise up with reason and the relief of adulthood. People want to live in a world of integrity, or unite naturally to discuss it. Why isn’t this? Because of marriage. To enforce reason, one can’t be in a relationship of unreason. To tell the oppressor to be reasonable, one has to free their domestic partner, otherwise the depth of that, can’t summon the honesty to deal with criminals, that criminals, at least, want, to salvage and make sense of what is hard, crime. A criminal can say to a married man, “well, you know women, though they say they want a relationship, really don’t, and its more integrity to set them free” And there’s no arguing with that. Unless you have integrity in your personal life, you can’t exert reason upon criminal oppression. Thus judges are best single, to reason more clearly, And Hippies, Rainbows and lower classes, that have been through experience, and revered as soldiers to Rome, in their hipness and experience, and valor….are better law enforcement than married people, that people that haven’t seen a lot are not as good as those that have seen suffering, dealt with bad people, not recourse to the law…..
One stands up to the GOP with an awareness of the sophistication and moral ambiguity, and truth, gender relations require, with an affirmation of the blessings of agriculture, and thinking. The Romans and Republicans didn’t demonize God, the Romans honored as many religions as possible, towards securing their stability, licensing almost all religions, limiting some is some understanding or parochial ways. Romans, and Republicans are best stood up to through Truth, through guts and Integrity, through movements of intelligence, not long term structure; for Republics embody long term structure. The ancients firmly understood, a spiritual dimension, osmosis through however culture, made working together.
Of course Lincoln was a Republican, he was holding together the republic, to not let another state create itself, like we did from England. That is a bit like the federal roman policy of expansion predicated upon insults to Rome, insults, often denied, or not clear. Rome glorified and more routinely had war than the Greeks. They also managed war better, and didn’t let it get the best of them, probably because they were so darn near undefeated. America’s Republican Party, comprising its form for consolidating diverse regions, was devised upon the Indians, and constant warfare there, unpublicized as well, unknown as a cause in America History, issued as propaganda, for A Grecian city-state way, not federalism, would not have made tribes and potential allies, go away, imploding from tragedy, or expanding liberally out of disputes between the states then, themselves. Republicanism, has been at the expense of states and tribes; Yet Democrats, while against Republicans seem unaware of this domain, and who could expect such reality on TV, when the reality around us defies common sense, is a pressure system relieving the universe, not something of itself. The republicanism of today, has no recognition of tribes of any colors, even today, even though we have treaties with sovereign nation Indian reservations, our FBI has increased its assertion of its right to combat crime on the reservations. Look at their website; the contumely of office, to the Indian’s hamlet.
Lincoln republican, expansion, roman, Indians under dem pres, but much worse, why republican equals no states, – equals no tribes, equals much worse, no code of tribes or good rich,
Yet the obligation of citizenry to unjust war or undeemed education is communism; thus freedom defined by absence if war and dictates upon childhood. The issue very much is who should have built, or will build that road. I remember the debate around 1820, Henry Clay had a plan to improve America by building roads, in particular, one waterway that would stretch from Kentucky to Lake Eerie, or a postal route from Kentucky to Texas, or the cleaning of vegetation from Chesapeake waters;
Who pays for these things? If the fish business, then a sustainability, if the federal government, an industry weakening, if the people who benefit from a postal route, then the strengthening of the people, if the government organizes such a road, the weakening of the people.
Shouldn’t we repartition America, so that one state be for those that want home school, for one that endorse Christianity, for one that provides free health care, for another that provides none, that one be for the Indians to return to and live tribal, for another that the Irish, or redheads may want, if they do; for one where there is a matriarchy, and another that shows the results of no car insurance. Is that too happy for the universe? Is the universe such an out of control system, that coming together to discuss the system too palpable for our fey ghostly representation of Humankind.
Athenians had intelligence from Terms, such as The Humors, and encapsulations of qualities their pantheon of Gods and Spirits offered. Christianity follows in this tradition of terms, with “sin” Christ” The “Kingdoms of God and Heaven” . Now of course our democratic movement isn’t grounded in liberating terms today, but it can be, the rung to lower common denominators. Romans and Republicans are drier, yet more spirit and morality based, a simpler virtue.
Both Romans and Athenians promoted local decision making in peaceful assemblies. The Athenians limited assemblies to 300 rotating voters, the Romans, all present, and the gals and Germanic and Italian tribes practiced this as well. It was the means of the lower class to register opinion, with local senates being an upper mode; and the gals threw druids in the mix as running Justice, and Religion. But Greece comprised of city-states, and less uniting of diverse areas, their peaceful assemblies had more sway, and were less about ratifying central government, than deciding policy.
Romans and Republicans rally around patriotism, Democrats and Greeks around necessities, are critical, and ideally solemn deliberative and wisdom seeking people.
Agriculture united The Roman Plebes. Everything was a two class society back then, plebes and patricians in Rome, but I’m not sure Greece had distinguishing names, even nicknames, like Plebes and Pats. The Romans, with the promenade of 30 tribes, not only invested in class warfare as a positive thing, with a positive competition…whereas the individual ethos permeates Greece right? Less group identity (which history tends to occlude) and more individual self-reliance. Agriculture is less cited. Agriculture is less a commodity and necessary and a priority, as outside history as The Tribes; in Greece, it is of the marketplace, a luxury of olives and fine dining, agriculture is less a conservative reality-principle, and more something to be enjoyed, perhaps by being a port to many calls of trade; Trade for that matter, an economy of disparate hegemonies and political alliances, moving about in competing ships and sailors, that Greek sophistication. Rome is a bit inland for that liberal trade.
As for group as group identity, the core of tribal unconscious, what underscores this, but the sensational phenomena of auguries in Rome and oppose that to the Oracle of Delphi, which is on the other side of the river from Corinth, set back in the mountains a bit, that run easterly to the north of Athens, to the sea. Greece is so rocky, dry and barren; it requires trade and sophisticated craft to trade. And yet there seems to be a contest between the Greek and Italian Peninsulas in the first century before Christ as to which cultures subsisted best; Italian Tribes were bent in to Rome, Greek Tribes, did not bow to such a great hegemony, but practiced spheres of influence and alliance.
The problem is democrats in America advocate this slow progressive movement, and the way to change things is through people working and planning together and communities autonomies through peaceful assembly. While their policies may be preferable to Republicans, it is not the proper standing up to Republicans, but an acceptance of their system and their rules. Thus fundamental lower class understandings are violated. And this includes marriage as a confusing and feared, situation. There is an idealization of our way, and veneration of Marriage, entirely unwarranted and phony; because those unproductive values are prey to crime, and irrationality —instead of saying, “be reasonable, act like an adult, don’t you feel guilty enough all ready” to one with a gun at them, or “you represent the kingdom of god” a liberating act, the married will be full of fear not comprehending a strategy to that gun, as not having undertaken strategic thinking inl something even closer.
Clinton accepts the pressure of the 40hr week career, not seeing there can be something much much better if we sit and think and discuss what to do, and what the situation is, why not has this been; but close enough to comprehend God, and discuss why the Kingdom, as conduits of higher power, or representation of a likeness to human, which if true, how to work out from. Maybe it is essentially possibly only locally, with and through, someone like me who can understand and implement this, through trust and respect, humility.
More likely though, this is all a sinking ship, yet another thing to not sweat about:
Clinton patronized Obama by ignoring the hardship upon all Americans when he emphasizes the adversity Obama has gone through.
More student loans is a dubious desire to a lower class that desires less grid and more sustainability, less school, and more time with children; So it is one thing to sell, more student loans, it is another thing, to sell it as the solution. The solution is people discussing what they want with their time and life and how to achieve it. The solution is controlling the system, not the system controlling us.
Even thought the system controls us, because the issuance of sacrifice difficult at a material level. A palpable quality of the universe has been vivisected.
The middle class, married, democrats, idealize school, marriage, family, not working together, community, God, thinking, health.
“Crime”, Is, like The Universe; dark, without light, cold, unreasonable, unmerited, even. Crime symbolizes the pagan universe. Why? Because we live in a pagan universe, unrecognized, and therefore re-imaged as “crime” and offering “crime” as an opportunity for the injection of God. Because there is more truth, in that behind the scenes, that is more truth, than what the scene projects.
I went to Woodstock N.Y. In the Catskills. Regardless of whether red or blue state, some ancient understandings that there are hippies prevail in a matrix that encourages the opportunity of all society to improve through the society of lower orders, such as Baal in 200AD, or the rainbows and merry pranksters of the modern era; some places encourage this, as a type of monkish buddust Jewish roman wee gaullic path. At its best political interests encourage a racial harmony as well; whereby the minority group is understood together. Recognizing the ability of others to accomplish goals that benefit all is valuable. This Hippie Movement, aka, the Rainbow Movement, embraces productivity, sustainability, working together, working with skill, knowledge, hands, community, discussion, circling, campfires, being self-taught; not middle class married values, pressuring working as much as possible, TV, hiding from community, idealization, not Godliness, or Spirituality, or anti-government and media, pro people, pro talking, natural healing, agriculture, gender relations, genuine racial issues, blacks in prison, whites dominated in two pro sports–issues democrats find foreign, unnecessary.
Yet my vision The Kingdom of God is talked to often by the Kingdom of Heaven, re vital subjects, including, that such is for the universe, and thus the kingdom of God, be actually aware they are for the universe. This would be a sombering material fact.
Yet the democratic machine emblazons Jobs, and even marriage; such reality makes them prey to the hold of unreasonable, rather than the knowledge every man would prefer to be treated as an adult. There is confusion. Who can straighten it out without being concurrently aware of the hopeless darkness rushing in; the constant and various pressures from a universe of much dark and catalyzed motion of knowledge. The true expression of the people, as lost as an anchor in the universe winds.
The power, to move people, comes from recognizing how bad things are, what is not, what we lack, as pivotally more important and defining than what we have, that things are more negative, than positive, bad, than good, decidedly, whether from the universe or in what is heaven here closer to Earth. Society mirrors this universal understanding, it is more obvious what is missing, than what is said.
The level of society defined by criminal morality, not guilt and reason, criminal nature, not in truth, or reckoned absence; this again is where The Show, mirrors, The Universe; that hopes the universe enjoys TV. The negative is closer to reality and truth, than the positive. The Romans and Republicans have a simple moral pride in sacrifice and hardship; whereas the obscuring of sophistication, the robe of the false veneration of philosophy in Greek Culture, by Greek philosophy, is critical thinking gone badly. The Greek Play, the initiation of removed media, but at an artful
The more history, a culture or society has, the more records it keeps, even the more publicity-seeking Arts, the less significance to the people, interaction of truth, development of culture, sophistication, more natural means, more interaction with Heaven, and The Universe So, and less for the people in calamity and motion. For imagine God controls everything, and see how much energy He puts into TV production, and corresponding, how little energy and motion into a realistic sensible local scene, and analytical and discussing society about you. There is an inverse. Do not be discovered by history and the media, change without telling one journalist, or face book perhaps. Yet people can be honest, some inner collective conscience; reflect the yearnings for an adult world, overcome the pressure system against us, maybe this does require a Super bowl Commercial.
Snubs: Snubs are actually an interesting tradition, to contrast, in classical times. According to Herodotus, in the earlier part of the millennium, warfare was avoided and not practiced, precisely by antagonizing rivals and retaliating on rivals, by stealing their wives, kidnapping. One state would strike back by kidnapping a couple of the other side’s women. And the counterpart would counter in same. And all the raiding and devious sailors, quite happy this never involved warfare and battle, but merely sweet talking women into avoiding war by coming along to check out where they come from. It was only the tragic vehemence and beast of Agamemnon that made such a big deal about the Trojans stealing Helen. That was an exception to a good rule, according to Herodotus. History portrays it as righteous, justifiable, and common epic back then. It was none of those virtues, and thus we see history as doing the worst devious common thing of translating the extraordinary and wrong, as somehow ordinary and write; of aberration as tradition; of glorifying what humbly was consciously avoided hundreds of years.
But to return to Delphi. You, the inquiring mind, may wonder, “How those Delphic priestesses in the mountains at their monastery do, how are they able to divine and tell the future to the Greeks that travel there to have their fortune told?” Now this is truly a wonderful tradition of the Greeks. There were many oracles run by priestesses, throughout Greece. I heard, that at least once in a lifetime, everyone was compelled to take a trip and hike to The Oracle at Delphi, where they had extensive and comfortable accommodations, as well as being not that far from town. Thus, the secret is, one would arrive with one’s questions, but it being a bit of a vacation, or prediction-travel, you could and would stay around several weeks waiting for the priestesses to get to you. For which it was a bit like a resort, with hiking trails, and a prominent track, and bars, and priestesses who spoke ambiguously possibly on purpose. Thus the priestesses would get to know you, talk you up, ply you with libations, so when you came round to the official ceremony of oracle, they had a pretty good womanly view of your character and some idea what to say. It wasn’t off the top of their head. However, I have read, gaseous vapors once rose from the ground near the oracle, inducing an intuitive or high-minded state, I imagine.
The Roman Republic’s fascination with oracles was quite different. It was a group thing and state function. Thus, if the geese didn’t eat before a battle, which happened rarely enough, the battle was canceled, it prophesized for the whole, for the army with the geese that did just that. It wasn’t an individual thing.
Our Interior Collective Conscience-Conscious, is some connection between the interior of the Human, and our Heavenly Fathers; severely limited by a constraint pressure, like rivulets running from dark misery of the a universe, knowing actively vaster negatives, in darkness and cold and age, than can be controlled by reason.
I want to say our Human Collective Consciousness, which to me and the less enlightened, a Human Collective Unconscious, can save up enough through sacrifice, and allow the interior confessions, knowledge of the lies we’ve lived in, repent a way out of sin, or spend what we saved a bit, upon something illuminating, even a dark truth; The option or spending something to buy this retreat into truth, to see if there is shelter, or resolve in Diversion, to avoid it. Media seen as Diversion as in the sense, what it diverts from is worse.
Rome in Livy’s Histories, cordons off agriculture, separates it, as if there are tribal pasture lands responsible for food, intersecting with a lower class desire to produce agriculture, thus ensuring a freedom from the upper class and separation therein by virtue to the leverage and value of food, which the good and moral upper class knows they can’t have without positive lower class production. Even still, they diurnally drafted for war, as if that was the payment for their degree of salvation, the separation of agriculture, and tribe, surrounding Rome, for a historical life in The City. How did the city ever make sense? TO preserve the countryside by concentrating people together. This implies some reality about working agriculture, away from the pressure American Agriculture is under, with the deflated value of the most important commodity, relatively speaking, to a spiritual ease, and enlightened allowance, positive class schism can bring about; where antagonists actually more care about each other, deep down, than the conflict. Agriculture, a flag to rally round, by The Plebs. And yet there must have been less freedom or meaning in Rome, than the tribes surrounding it, and lesser known cultures, which were known to have senates and assemblies of the people as well, even if at times there was a king, and druids had their say on judicial matters, the economy, by being more basic, fueled an ensuing lifestyle and culture that was more basic, grounded, fundamental. Livy frequently mentions how Rome had a few scores of tribes, and they each had a vote to input on central policy. Which is what we in America critically lacked, tribes, at most national or ethnic clubs. Tribes facilitate popular councils and peaceful assemblies, to figure out what can be done within the confines of History.
Whereas the Greeks were known for their standard of living, and rich culture. Indeed, Herodotus, the hippie traveler from Greece, wryly writes the Greeks should not have advanced so near the interior of Persia, for it made those plain simple desert-loving people desire the oils and luxuries they saw the Greeks using, and thus had three emperors who tried to take over all of the Greek World. War to the Greeks was an attack on them, something very bad; whereas to the Romans, it was like a spring bivouac, and opportunity to camp and hike around with a pack and build towers outside cities to try to enter from. The Roman diet was also plainer and their culture more famous for celebrating holy days as a community. In the early days, until used for treachery, if one town or tribe liked another, they invited a whole other town over for food and drink.
Let us turn to states that know opportunity, that benefit spreads; knows most of society in marriage; whereas often the women is the happy one, and the male, suffering. Marriage is confusing. It is about denial, perhaps. But the women is happy, and marry so many males, because women cannot handle being single; it’s only humiliating; and even worse, previous relationships that were confusing and involved lies. Whereas men can handle being single and just go through it. Many with the sanctity of knowledge of the kingdom of god. This last, which objectification obscures, to the purpose of sexuality, defined by a negative, a love not a kindness, something there is more sympathy for than realized; insofar as losing sight of God, for false beauty, is cruel, and original. As if what is wrong can just be straightened out. Yet what it involves is media, in the very sense of the word, as media of the nonsubjective, impersonal, detached, representative, cast. The criminal and the newscaster and president, all are detached, far from the simple reason of the people, far from living an adult life, they are more in unreality than you and I, saved for the show, history, that outer space watches, as we, TV, perhaps. This is the strength of the media we have to straighten out. Capable of TV networks, impressions of one another, and politicians of historical record.
Compare the energy God puts into TV, the news, history, commercial culture, if we allow God controls everything, and how little energy is put into your community, facilitating talk, figuring things out, and right directions. The energy is going far away from you and the people, on stages, behind TV screens, places that charge money, in venerable classical buildings.
The media at people’s disposing involves repenting, admitting the lie, with everyone, in face of the Kingdom of God. Judges must confess to Judges, Local officials, to environmentalists, for I doubt they could confess to the people local decisions in peaceful assembly are constitutionally intended, with all the implications to local life, therein, as separate from the federal and state government, and so intended, in honest competition, reservation of powers to the people. Newscasters and Journalists must admit on the air they were controlled. Yes there is a fear this detached top of the pyramid power structure, built essentially for a few to treat the many, like children incapable of discussion, creates pedophilia, marking Athenian society strata’s of Plato, because when one treats adults like children, one may cease to relate to adults sexually, and increase the significance with children. All of this, must show the sacrifice of what is on earth, for a universe marked by death.
People must admit the Kingdom of God at hand, protecting, and no sacrificial, yet there is one force that controls everyone. One tough twisted cloud that hardens into the detachment of everyone; a product of anger and hate, through a hardness not recognizing the Kingdom of god, a great dissatisfaction, as well as an expression of the value of life, which then completely ignores the kingdom of god, and the reason why there is the kingdom of god, because actual death too hard. This unreasonable quality, keeps everyone from being reasonable, in a sacrificial expression of the universe’s own misery and worse. There is no one, who is not It. Recognizing yourself as the kingdom of god, as not getting a life is most important, yet precisely not the device of this cloud towards you. This limitation, upon human forces, divided up somehow through earth, this movement around me, expresses an anger of the universe, the pagans used to sacrifice to, more overtly. And, as I said, its value measured by an estimation of life, that grounds you as valuable alive, though you are the kingdom of god, and grounds your death as valuable and estimable, and sad, as well. This almost explosive imposition upon the truth of the kingdom of god, is what needs to be calmed down, relaxed, and recognized; it is true negotiation, an easier future; Then I realized, this valuation of death and life, for everyone’s absence, signifies the universe has been through so much death, it is death, marked by death, expressing death, over and above. And compassion for the universe the main thing. And yet our expression, media, contains no expression of compassion for the universe; even rather venting the anger and word within that expression of the universe.
Surprised at the equation, with the importance of each as a statistic, with some knowledge of life and death in the universe? Why wouldn’t the universe “know” death, unfortune? Why the constant calamity each second corresponding to that cherished notion of life resonating individually in the nontribal world, going by on the street, right now? Because the universe is very “now”. It is like “film” as Keats imputed, it is all, “surface area” as Foucault wrote. There is nothing behind it but more blocking the now, this is where we stand.
But we can go farther and review. We can say the impressions here are like a lightening rod to the universe. We may say The Kingdom of Heaven is possibly protected from the inquiring of the universe, or is at least a different channel, by the “now” the “surface area” “the film” upon darkness, upon that which does not want to exist, a rejection of itself. The very nitrogen of the universe, is the opposite of the good planet earth enough to stimulate the good planet earth into itself. Sensing the now and many walls of the universe, you sense something that does not want to be itself, that finds earth an anomaly. That may have something like itself behind it.
There isn’t the past in the universe of outer space. Outer Space may not have the membranes of memory that we have, that enable recording and registering and settling. Trying to calm it down into something horrifying. What could it have to remember but the existences on the few better planets of the universe, and perhaps the regular uninhabited planets provide sustenance to these satanic phenomena. The ancients must have wondered the relation between the planets of their solar system and outer space and Earth. How are they? Finer? Relatively-Speaking, to outer space?
So there I was, staring Satan in the face, but it wasn’t, I mean, there was my eye, with few strands from Satan extending out of my eye, over into a horizon, where forth, undoubtedly received by something Satanic, by which I mark by the principle, of our opposite, out of which we sprang generated by a reaction to, trying to kill us, and successfully, you know; but what Marks this Satan, is its inability to understand anything beyond his own ever extending satanic “now” of pain and woe, thus inflicted upon earth, as a baby, confused, crying…..staying, an outlet, within and without, perceiving manufactured history. It seems we are hoping for a human-like culture expressing compassion for the universe, to replace our current expression of precise disregard for the truth, as a venting method for the Universe. And the hope is that would change the nature of the universe. And the truth seems to be the pagans expressed precisely sympathy for the universe…..now when the pagan tribes killed their birds, or livestock, for the planets, who mediate us with the universe, they were venting the wrath of the universe with the death of the fowl; It was also an expression of compassion perhaps, that the missing of the universe is worth the death of that fowl, yet we seek a more sophisticated and less violent expression of compassion for the universe by our culture. Something more than a stone couch built for Jupiter to relax in, nights he descended from the heavens to Rome, some expression of understanding and sympathy for the gaped maw beyond Jupiter and into the intertwines of the Universe. Like Republican women, suffering a lower and lower fate; I’d go so far as to sense alienation in the very twirling away of earth from the comparative absence around its rotation. Personification, a subjective human quality? Or Something Attached to the senses, we are kind to, that may be the outer space beyond the horizon? Suddenly we are forced to consider the sum and magnitude of the universe, however negligible that may naturally seem, to be more, and demanding of our focus, than earthly concerns. Indeed our afterlife may measure less for the universe’s opposite insignificance. Humanity, maybe material physical planetary matter, has an ability to absorb, absorb experience, which outer space, remains of the physical without the physical, does not seem to, always propelling itself further in pain, than settling down and sighing.
But then if there is something two-dimensional and super transient about outer space, that can’t settle down, being tousled from an ever-farther end, what can we do? There is no Republican Federation installing stability and commotion, there is no democratic movement among the universe discussing what to do either. Outside of here. Part of it may focus on an inability to express itself. The human mind may be compressed in and out of a relative similar microcosm of culture. How does compassion for the universe start? How does it add on to, these words? If the universe claims a piece of everyone’s heart, this is difficult to work out of.
One may speculate it desires a transition and new culture of compassion to it. Who is it to say though, its notion of life and death at much larger stakes than out age, gender, and species,-divided planetary life-force, having less reproduction, and conversely less death, felt their collapse far worse than any one earthling in his confines. Does the universe, unable to absorb, even understand one death? Or is it reflecting vaster deaths than our earthly apprehensions? We may feel the reverberations of such conception, but a two-dimensional universe, ever-feel their ripples. This has nothing to do with anyone, and everything to do with cosmic events, far away, long ago, coagulating still in derivative form now.
It is still perplexing this filmy surface area, born of something, many things that died long ago. One turns to the kingdom of heaven, as consciousness can’t be far from consciousness, and what I notice, is a homeopathic sense, less may be more, there is more power in absence and the universe and humans being on earth, absence is more a kin than prescience, and the fraud of the world, its presence, its presence removed to perceive the minute puissant doses of what is present, absence, up against the sky, gains the perspective of power and logically, a detached estimation of ease.
But let’s say there is a detached puissance, concentrated far away, for souls involved with earth; concurrently, imposing upon Christianity, the pressed up presence upon the Christian Mind, of society, sin, the world of man, the lamb of god, so The Christian seeks to detach from the presence and sin of the world, and expand, imagination blur into the sky, in search of what we here earlier, and logically make sense of phenomena. Is the Kingdom of Heaven, substantially less than the what on physical, of physical earth? The length of eternity lessens the significance of each day. The lifespan, a concentrated drop of physical body.
Thoughts have their sensations, sensations attempt to reflect phenomena, which is what we study, within some structure like this. Now, the overwhelming sensation, is, the experience of, The Kingdom of Heaven, singularly, is less than what is experienced in physical human form, a part of material earth. That is quite reassuring, renders the impediments in the way possibly much less than thought, the notion God can acquiesce to my dreams, anytime I want, contingent on me knowing how inconsequential God is, compared to the Human Experience on Earth, God, as very humble, and an influence, yet whose power for you, requisite on recognizing how you compare to God. In the same fey denouement, that recognizes The Kingdom of God, being less than Christ, and therefore Christ not so special, as rare: May also recognize the Kingdom of Heaven as being less than Christ as well. Yet this requires a certainty of apprehension; for it is not spelled out in the Gospel, the superiority of Christ to Heaven, is asserted, but not explained.
So there was a joy of less upon the realization that earth is so lost, and the afterlife derivative enough to be weak, that the whole thing may ease up, and I literally felt my back start to untwist and a depth to the shoulder blades felt, even as the afterlife props up prongs in my heart to their illusion. But in the proverbial rocks across the river, I stopped and still do at “less” as very relaxing.
Why is it less? Because one day over a physical lifespan is relatively more than one day over an eternity? Because the afterlife or Kingdom of Heaven has such little success making earth better, rather than seemingly engaged in a strategy of sacrificing it? The level of success so low has to not afford much of a voice. And yet ultimately what is my success? What voice could I have? I fail too, right? My voice a mere dark wearied spirit in the universe as well. I search for a voice, something I can relate to, at a right angle to reality, I seek to relate at a level of fatalism, my own voice, so little. After death, I realized, I won’t be able to keep pushing, they don’t have a body to push with, they are much more accepting, looking at a long time; these are impressions of course, first. Communication at a tinnier level, in a place of mind more suited for such; what of the flesh being more capable of finding objection than the less physical universe? How similar morphed and combined, the afterlife of humans and the universe? Are they too similar? Can I push aside the veil from heaven upon my mind, with the import of the physical upon the less material, in the absence of anything to say, with the fatalism from the lack of results, with too much cost. And then it hit me, back to the darkness, things are so bad, thoughts are evil, such is the realer reality, an understanding how bad things are, explaining why God show such little sympathy to humans, or their history and ways. I go from trying to communicate to an absence, that then has to know and value what is missing more, to something else, a tinny communiqué expressing just a few of the many’s view of the darkness life be in now.
To rise to prominence in History requires extensive record keeping, that what marked the Egyptians, their volumes of Records, what allows them to choose what they leave to History, forces a focus as well. Thus The Republic kept annals, which Livy derived information on the 800 years he conveyed, year by year, and at the end of each anal, or events that were unlikely or cited, such as cats talking or temples of Jupiter being struck by lightning or two headed cows or rivers turning color for a while, that was all recorded, and then left open for interpretation, and believed was intended to mean something conveyed. In general, in Rome, when something out of the ordinary happened, it was meant to mean something and be interpreted and concerned the fate of society as a whole, not just one. Thus auguries, though can be applied at an individual level, the whole augury scene here would indicate a media like response to news events, much the way the people, and/or the news, respond to events. Thus Greece was below and off the radar, as prophecies were individual or involved heroes and protagonists.
So there is a buying into individual personality and fate, which is a break from group tribal living and norm; And the interpretation of augury, of the hints and subtleties you are supposed to see, tease that distance between human and higher power, which in stronger tribal times, less historical times, was connected to the right angle of reason through a palpable intercessory, or even ruler, in Heaven; for which fires are symbolically hearted all day and night for, and the reverence for planets the same way as well; welcome to earth, relax, like us.
As the Greeks replaced Egypt in prominence, through conspicuous displays of Arts, and government, as an art as well, signifies the moral ambiguity to Art, in so far it asserts the History of history, one wonders the relief, or readjustment, or resifting of true geopolitical plates, that have since risen widely as they have, ending tribal life in Europe, America, as such, value the tribal ways History does not show us, in North Africa, Arabia, where they are.
Take over from Egypt the next one, can we say degrees of being known, these most prominent, reveal in their shadows, more enlightened classy
Let’s turn to this Rome had a great sense of propaganda than Greece. Greece was almost conscripted into History, and through its naval economy, a port-beacon to the world, the confluence of history and economy. Rome was more strictly political imperialistic, simpler, through history’s eyes. Warfare takes propaganda, as crime requires submission, this renders, Rome, though Republican, as not as conservative as it seems, but a bit like communism, imperialistic, conscripting, telling the people what to do, beyond tribal guidelines, demanding a tithe from the tribes, for history. Whereas, Athens, Liberalism, is too chaotic for some simple hypocrisy seeming to commune. They seem to have arts of plays, cultures of Plato, in the spaces where Rome has developed politics and simple history and diet, figuratively speaking.
You may say both had religions intended to scare; But Hades scared and was intended to scare individual Greeks into not making trouble, whereas in Rome, the gods and superstitions were there to fool the soldiers into keeping fighting, and that all was all right, though something to think about. However the prevalence of sacrifice, as normality out of tribal life, and into historical life, would make religion scary per se. But also reassuring, if it can be explained and shown to work.
The buying into individuality, whether specifically seen in Greek culture, or inferred generally, signifies a closeness to isreal, where Judaism, history and a Lord, that was not so directly to The Israelites, whereby in Italy, it was much simpler, with less individual, and more Tribe, and governor-in-heaven, who, we imagine, would have tribal characteristics, and be there as possible.
The Romans famously protested a couple times, by walking out of Rome. Athens is not class-conscious enough to do that. It was very embarrassing to the rich. The agriculture enabled such. That was closer to the earlier history of Rome, when there were still the homilies of one town inviting another town over for food and drinks. The Athenians are too bound as one everything, for such dualism in politics. One can see how feudalism followed out of Roman Times, even though such class issue was prevalent throughout an incorporation of tribal logic with government. Sparta’s upper class, did not allow lower classes to soldier, nor allow itself agriculture and trade; all of which makes no sense to me, in terms of effectiveness and health.
Greeks still women, Republicans, fight it out
The Spartan ethos, their women, roman women